Sex and Food Are The Way To A Man’s Heart, But Are They The Way To a Seller’s Heart?

June 11th, 2008

I’ve got good news and I’ve got bad news. The good news is that food is the way to a seller’s heart and the bad news is that sex isn’t (sorry fellas).

One of the strategies that I always use when meeting with a seller is to bring them food. I usually end up bringing some type of pastry such as a pie or muffins. There are two very important reasons that I do this.

First, almost everyone loves food. It’s a very polite gesture to show up at a seller’s house with something to give to them. I am always harping about how you need to stand out and be different from your competition. How many other investors out there do you think bring a delicious apple pie to their seller’s house?

Not too long ago, I had a meeting with a seller about a lease option deal. I was running behind that day, so on my way to his house I quickly ran into the grocery store to get him something. I was in such a hurry that I grabbed the first thing I saw in the bakery section and it was some type of twisty looking pastry with a fancy sounding name (to this day I have no idea what in the heck I bought.) When I arrived at the seller’s house I handed him the pastry and told him “I thought you might enjoy these” (even though I didn’t know what these were). He took the pastry from me, we walked into his kitchen and I ended up doing the deal with him. Later that week, as we were going over some of the details, he commented to me how generous it was that I brought him the pastry and how good they tasted. Now of course that wasn’t that only reason I got the deal, but every little bit helps.

The second reason that you need to bring food to the seller is because it will lead you to the kitchen table. When you give someone a gift of food they almost always take it to the kitchen and put it on the counter or the kitchen table. This is exactly what you want to happen. You want to sign the paperwork (remember it’s always called paperwork, never a contract) for the deal at the kitchen table. For many families the kitchen table is a “happy place” where people sit, chat, relax and enjoy each others company–it is their comfort zone. You want the sellers to be relaxed and in a familiar setting when you sign the paperwork. It is also a much easier place to sign everything. If you have ever tried signing paperwork while leaning forward and writing on a coffee table it’s not a comfortable position whatsoever.

What do you do if the seller heads into the living room with your pastry or somewhere else besides the kitchen? You simply ask them to go to the kitchen. Say “Mr. Seller would you mind if we went to the kitchen table, that way I could easily lay out the paperwork for you, so I don’t forget to go over anything?” The majority of the time they will say yes.

Decide now, that you will not go on any more visits without bringing food. You want every advantage when trying to close a deal don’t you?

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Sex and Food Are The Way To A Man’s Heart, But Are They The Way To a Seller’s Heart?

The Real Estate Investor Buying Process

May 8th, 2008

The Investor Buying Process

1. Build your TEAM
If there was one thing that will make a difference between a good experience/deal or a bad experience/deal…it is your team. Your team could consist of a Real Estate Agent, Mortgage Broker, Title/Escrow Agent, Insurance agent, Home Inspector, General Contractor, Real Estate Attorney, and the list can go on. We are going to start with the most important…and that is your Real Estate Agent and Mortgage Broker.

So how do you know the difference between a good team member and a bad one…we recommend the book Rich Dad’s Real Estate Advantages …in chapter 5 it covers some of the questions to ask and what to look out for. We have listed a few of these questions for you….

2. Your Exit STRATEGY (& Credit) = Loan Options

You need to start with your exit first. If we break down your exit strategies, they will fall into 2 categories…cash flow or capital gains. What is the difference? My parents have a ranch and they raise cattle for beef. They raise the cattle and sell it for a profit (hopefully) and get that profit only once. Had they chosen to be a diary farmer, the cattle would continually produce milk which equals a profit. Real Estate is the same way, I can sell it for a 1 time gain (or loss) or I can us it for a monthly income. All of the real estate investing strategies fall into 1 of those 2 categories…cash flow or capital gains.

Most mortgage brokers focus on your credit as the key factor in placing you into a certain type of loan. While your credit is important…It is your intended exit of the property that will define your loan options. If you are looking to hold this property for the long term then you may be looking for a 30 year fixed loan that is paid off within the 30 years or sooner. If you intend to only keep this home a few years, then an interest only loan may make the most sense. Why, because it will keep your monthly payment low.

No matter what your exit is, there is a loan program for everyone. The problem, most people look for the ‘best deal’ instead of the loan program that is the ‘best fit’.
Team Members Needed - Mortgage Broker, Credit Repair specialist
Tools - Mortgage Calculators , Online Mortgage Application

3. FIND a Property

So here comes the step of going out and finding a property. One of the most important parts of this process is managing your emotions. Yes, the purchase of a property can be an emotional decision…lets just be aware of that. To give you a different perspective though, it is important to understand the difference between a consumer and investor. Consumers make decisions based on emotions while an investor makes decisions solely by the numbers.

My recommendation is be both a consumer and an investor, get what you want (emotions) yet make sure it makes financial sense. So how do we make sure that a deal makes financial sense? Well that is entirely based on your exit strategy that we discussed in step #2. But lets talk about the 2 different tracks that you may look at…Cash flow vs. Capital Gain. If you want cash flow you will need to evaluate the income of the property…if you want capital gains you want to evaluate the future value of the property. Lets break these 2 elements down. Cash flow is a relatively easy formula…

income – expenses = cash flow

So why do so many people end up with negative cash flow? Simple answer…they don’t use the formula. They so often mistake different numbers for different things or don’t use the formula at all. An example of this…your real estate agents tells you the Cash Flow is $800 on a 3/2 single family home. The problem is, this number didn’t include the largest expense…your mortgage. So you got a great deal, unfortunately your mortgage turned out to be $1000 a month so you are losing $200 a month. The other problem is that so called investors are using the wrong formula…they use the formula for capital gains to evaluate cash flow. I will hear from people that the property is 20% below market value…problem is it is still over priced from a cash flow perspective. Capital Gains. How do you predict the future value of a property?

Do you have a crystal ball?

I don’t…but if you do let me know as I will pay you a lot of money to use it. So lets get real, to invest in capital gains you are not going to use a crystal ball and predict where the market is going, you have to base your decisions on where the market is today. The key with capital gains is to build in your profit before you buy. So how does this look, another simple formula of addition and subtractions.
ARV – Expenses – Profit = Your Highest Offer

  1. ARV = the appraised value after repairs made or what you think you can sell the property for. In a down market you may consider lowering the price to sell.
  2. Possible Expenses (repairs, money costs, closing costs when you buy and sell, real estate agent commissions when you sell, carrying costs – HOA, utilities, insurance.)
  3. Profit – how much money you want to make If you use this formula you can see where emotions may play into this. You offer may be a significant discount to make the deal work for you. But if you can not make a profit, should you do the deal?

Team Member Needed - Real Estate Agent
Tools - Real Estate Listings

4. CONTRACT

When in doubt, tie up the property by getting the property ‘under contract’ and just ensure that your escape clauses are in place. Earnest money…it is important to know ‘how much’ earnest you need to put down. Truth is, all that you need to put down is $1 to $100, whatever amount is required by your title/escrow company to open an escrow account. Real Estate Agents will tell you they like 1% or some other amount because it show that you are a ’serious’ buyer. Point is…earnest money is negotiable. Everything is negotiable.

Quick Contract tips…if you want something, be specific. If you want an ‘escape’ be